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Q&A with The Producers of LANDSLIDE - A Portrait of President Herbert Hoover


Q&A with the Producers of LANDSLIDE - A Portrait of President Herbert Hoover
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LANDSLIDE - A Portrait of President Herbert Hoover


The film premiered nationwide on PBS on MONDAY, OCTOBER 26

NEW: Interview with LANDSLIDE Producers Chip Duncan and Tracy Dorsey on Wisconsin Public Radio

LANDSLIDE - A Portrait of President Herbert Hoover is a one-hour documentary created for public television in the United States. The film is produced as a co-production between The Duncan Group, Inc. and Stamats Communications, Inc. with Iowa Public Television as the presenting station for the PBS system. For a complete list of underwriting credits for this production, please contact Iowa Public Television.

The producers of LANDSLIDE - A Portrait of President Herbert Hoover are Chip Duncan and Tracy Dorsey. Chip Duncan is also the writer/director of the documentary. Tom Hedges and Stevie Ballard are the executive producers. The film was edited by Bob Huck. The original music score was composed by David Barrett. Patricia Ostermick and Tracy Dorsey conducted the research for the film and Stevie Ballard and Elizabeth Gibson were responsible for archival research and acquisition. The film includes narration only in the prologue and epilogue featuring the voiceover of Harry Smith. Duane Huey is the production executive for Iowa Public Television. Interviews for this production were conducted by Tracy Dorsey and Chip Duncan. The Duncan Group, Inc. is solely responsible for the editorial content of the completed production under the supervision of Iowa Public Television and with consultation from Stamats Communications, Inc.

The following Q&A represents the perspectives of producers Duncan and Dorsey and is not intended to represent the viewpoints of any other people associated with this production.

1) Please reflect on the importance of producing a Herbert Hoover biography at this time.

Duncan: When we began production in 2007, we had no idea that the release of the documentary would be so closely timed to a significant downturn in the global economy in 2008. The parallels between the economic and financial crises faced by Herbert Hoover and those in today's economy are remarkable and lend a timeliness to our production. The challenges faced by Hoover were considerable and his decisions remain controversial. Yet as Robert Reich reflects in the film, Hoover had little economic theory to go on and few precedents to guide his decision making process. Today's economy is far more global and market risks are shared by a much greater percentage of the American public than they were during the stock market crash of 1929 and the depression that followed. Much can be learned from the successes and failures of the Hoover administration.


Dorsey: Initially, the documentary seemed most relevant as part of our country's ongoing debate: Exactly what does our government owe its people? That issue was at the heart of American Individualism, the term Herbert Hoover coined for political philosophy, as well as his presidency. Many, including Margaret Hoover, argue it is the fundamental issue that defines and separates the Republican and Democratic parties today. But as production continued, and the day's newspaper headlines became eerily reminiscent of Hoover's era, the project has taken on a new life. As our interview subjects reflect on the politics and policies of the early Depression, they provide a historical perspective on the same thorny issues - financial bailouts, government secured mortgages, tax increases - grabbing headlines today. It's worth noting that Robert Reich, who faults Hoover for not recognizing the importance of "government as the spender of last resort," is among the current economic advisors to president-elect Barack Obama.


2) What did you find particularly revealing or interesting about Herbert Hoover as you became more involved in the production and interview process?


Dorsey: Amity Shlaes remarks that Herbert Hoover was the "Bill Gates" or the "Steve Jobs" of his day. As a young mining engineer, his early career was marked by technological innovation, overwhelming financial success and adventure in far-flung lands. According to historian David Kennedy, Hoover's signature characteristic as a presidential candidate in 1928 was his "sheer, unqualified competency." Hoover's entrepreneurial spirit, intelligence and ability - as well as the limitations of those traits during his presidency - were all revelations to me.

Duncan: Our discovery process is reflected in the film. For many Americans, the name Herbert Hoover is synonymous with widespread unemployment and economic collapse as well as The Great Depression. Yet those associations alone are far from articulating a fair portrayal of the man and his remarkable career. Hoover's legacy as a humanitarian leader during and after WWI and WWII and his success as a two-term Secretary of Commerce are noteworthy achievements. His ability to manage crisis and to mitigate suffering and starvation rank him among the greatest humanitarians of all time.

3) Herbert Hoover is not well known to the American television viewer today though his name is often associated with the 1929 stock market crash and The Great Depression. In your opinion, is that association fair?

Dorsey: Yes, but the limited association most viewers have - of Depression era "Hoovervilles" or a heartless, do-nothing president - obscures a much more complex and interesting history. As David Kennedy notes, Hoover's attempts to combat the Depression were in many ways "unprecedented." Indeed, several of those interviewed give him credit for initiating policies Roosevelt later popularized under the New Deal. The fascinating question - and one we explore - is why Hoover, to this day, is blamed for the Depression while Roosevelt is celebrated for ending it.

4) How is the Hoover legacy relevant today?


Dorsey: Herbert Hoover's accomplishments - as a humanitarian, Secretary of Commerce and President - directly impact who we are and how we live today. Through relief efforts, both at home and abroad, he's credited with saving tens of millions of lives. His work in the Commerce Department galvanized trade and increased public health through standardization and safety regulations. But as those we've interviewed point out, Hoover's legacy may be most relevant in the lessons it offers in political leadership, or the lack thereof, in the time of crisis.


5) Why is this show important for public television?

Duncan: Public television continues to be the best resource we have in the U.S. for broadcasting free, not-for-profit programming for viewers seeking in-depth, thought-provoking stories told in a fair and balanced manner. The audience for public television is active and seeks to engage in informal, life-long learning. There's no better venue for a dialogue featuring noted scholars and historians as they help paint the picture of one of history's most noteworthy Presidents. PBS also has an established track record for presenting history, culture and current event programming in detail and with a genuine commitment to fairness, balance and journalistic integrity. We hope we've continued that tradition.

6) The program is produced with narration appearing only in the opening tease and epilogue. Please explain this choice from an editorial and creative perspective.

Duncan: As a writer/director, I'm a fan of minimal narration. When we do our job right in the field, our interview subjects become the storytellers and help us to minimize the need for or impact of a narrator. But it does require lengthy and detailed interviews in which our subjects share both fact and opinion. In this case, I was responsible for the decision to build the narrative from interviews alone as well as the success or failure of the technique. It's a significant challenge as a writer; however, when it works, the narrative emerges in a relatively seamless fashion. I believe we've been successful in establishing a portrait of Herbert Hoover given the voices we've chosen to include. With a one hour program duration, Landslide is not the definitive Hoover biography. That said, I believe we've managed to create something lasting and fair that will shed new light on this unusual and remarkable President.

7) You've chosen to work with composer David Barrett. How has Barrett's score contributed to the film?

Duncan: David Barrett is well known for his work as a television composer including three previous television biographies with The Duncan Group and one with Stamats Communications. Our entire team was familiar with his work and is grateful for his participation. In this particular score, we called on David to maximize his compositional skills on the piano and to minimize the emotional tenor of the score. Music can be manipulative and we worked hard to create a sense of the period and the mood of the times without exalting or demonizing Herbert Hoover. David's very good at arranging and, in the case of Landslide, he's worked in minimalist fashion. He hits his marks and works hard to avoid stepping on the narrative. In that sense, David works to enhance the vision of the filmmaker without putting the music in the foreground. It also helps that David understands the sound effects and mixing process as well as anyone working in television today - he left ample room for sound designer Scott Leamon to work his own magic. David and editor Bob Huck also worked to ensure that the music and visual components are seamless, a give and take process that continued throughout the post-production process.


8) The archive process on this production was extensive. Please discuss the choices you've made and the considerations behind the archive decisions.

Dorsey: The Hoover Presidential Library helped to make the job manageable, if only because the lives of American Presidents are so well documented. The staff of the library was outstanding and a great resources for us. But the scope of the archival work went well beyond the library to include resources from around the country. It's a massive task and it was facilitated by the outstanding work of Stevie Ballard, Elizabeth Gibson, Theran Pfieffer and Patricia Ostermick.


Duncan: From a writing perspective, I believe the archive process goes hand-in-hand with constructing the narrative. Pictures either enhance or diminish the storytelling. If we're successful, the film becomes better by allowing the archival material to play its role in furthering the narrative. In contrast to our t.v. biographies on Woody Hayes and CS Lewis, we were able to find considerable footage and still photos of Herbert Hoover from WWI through 1964. However, we were limited by the quality of the motion footage and the lack of usable audio. Motion pictures were becoming sophisticated during the 1920s but the combination of picture and sound recording was still in its infancy. We produced the documentary in state-of-the-art HD-CAM (high definition) yet there remains a stark contrast between the color images and the significant use of black and white archival material. In that sense, the black and white material reinforces the shift between contemporary and historic without imposing visual effects. It also forced both the composer (David Barrett) and sound designer (Scott Leamon) to remain authentic to the period. Both editor Bob Huck and I were regularly surprised by the general quality of photography in the historical motion footage we found, especially as it relates to the sequencing of footage from the 1927 Mississippi River flood and the 1932 Bonus March on Washington D.C.


9) How did you go about choosing your interview subjects?

Duncan: Tracy Dorsey and Patricia Ostermick were responsible for the research conducted during pre-production. In that regard, they played the most significant role in determining our interview subjects. As a rule, however, we were looking for an interesting mix of perspectives that would help to create a fair, detailed and balanced perspective on Hoover's life and his Presidency. In other words, we wanted a combination of opinions and insights from the right and left juxtaposed with historians who could speak to the facts of Hoover's life as well as the noteworthy historical events that shaped his career. Once we'd made our determinations, Patty, Tracy and I worked together on the interview questions and tried to shape them around the specifics of each subject's expertise and experience.


Dorsey: An in-depth knowledge of Hoover's life and presidency were paramount, of course. But we also sought out storytellers - authors, historians and scholars passionate about the president and his impact on the American people. Though born too late to meet her great grandfather, political consultant Margaret Hoover offers a personal perspective of the man and his philosophies. As author of The Worst Hard Time: A History of the Dust Bowl, Timothy Egan reflects on Hoover's policies through the eyes of a Depression era farmer. Hoover biographer George Nash provides an encyclopedic knowledge of Hoover's life, while Pulitzer-prize winning historian David Kennedy provides both depth and breadth to our picture of Hoover and his role in the global depression. Together with Robert Reich, Amity Shlaes, Timothy Walch and Jonathan Alter, our interview subjects have succeeded in transforming Hoover from a sepia-toned and faded memory to a flesh and blood American leader struggling with many of the same issues we face today.

10) Were there any pitfalls in the production process that impacted the final film? If so, what were they?

Duncan: Pitfalls? Yes, the biggest pitfall was the one hour time frame. Herbert Hoover lived a remarkable life and it was not possible to capture the fullness and breadth of his accomplishments, successes and failures in one hour. We also had very little time to deal with his personal characteristics or his marriage and family. In an ideal world, we'd have been able to work in three acts including one hour for his life prior to 1928, another hour for his presidency (1928-1932) and a third hour for his post-presidency (1932-1964). Few Presidents have been more active in their post-Presidency and few have been as vocal. That said, if Hoover had not been President, there would not be a film. For that reason, we chose to focus primarily on the critical events that qualified Herbert Hoover for the job of President of the United States of America and the key events of his time in office.


For more information or to use excerpts from this question and answer session, please contact Chip Duncan via email at: Chip@DuncanEntertainment.com.


Additional email addresses include:

Tracy Dorsey: Tracy@ResetMedia.tv

Tom Hedges: Tom.Hedges@stamats.com

Stevie Ballard: Stevie.Ballard@stamats.com

Bob Huck: Bob@DuncanEntertainment.com

David Barrett: Shiningmom@aol.com

Scott Leamon: Scott.Leamon@stamats.com

Patricia Ostermick: Patty@DuncanEntertainment.com

Elizabeth Gibson: elizabeth.gibson@stamats.com



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